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		<title>By: Aaron Massey</title>
		<link>http://blaynesucks.com/2009/11/04/book-adventures-of-huckleberry-finn/comment-page-1#comment-619</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Massey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 20:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comment; I apologize for letting it get caught in my spam filter.

I like your comment about the effect of modern transportation on language.  It&#039;s not just transportation, but communications technology effects language.  You and I are communicating in a way that was completely unforeseeable to Twain&#039;s world.  I can understand the viewpoint that we&#039;ve lost something important to the English language when reading something like Twain, but I don&#039;t believe this is a bad thing.  (Note: You didn&#039;t imply that it was; I&#039;m just adding my opinion.)  Language has been constantly evolving; sometimes fast, sometimes slow.  &quot;Losing&quot; these accents and variations in language was inevitable, but we would be remiss if that&#039;s all we saw.  There are so many new accents, variations, and magical forms of communication available to us.  Twain would be jealous.  Still, I&#039;m very glad that I can go back and read his work.  

;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment; I apologize for letting it get caught in my spam filter.</p>
<p>I like your comment about the effect of modern transportation on language.  It&#8217;s not just transportation, but communications technology effects language.  You and I are communicating in a way that was completely unforeseeable to Twain&#8217;s world.  I can understand the viewpoint that we&#8217;ve lost something important to the English language when reading something like Twain, but I don&#8217;t believe this is a bad thing.  (Note: You didn&#8217;t imply that it was; I&#8217;m just adding my opinion.)  Language has been constantly evolving; sometimes fast, sometimes slow.  &#8220;Losing&#8221; these accents and variations in language was inevitable, but we would be remiss if that&#8217;s all we saw.  There are so many new accents, variations, and magical forms of communication available to us.  Twain would be jealous.  Still, I&#8217;m very glad that I can go back and read his work.<br />
 <img src='http://blaynesucks.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Samantha Mat</title>
		<link>http://blaynesucks.com/2009/11/04/book-adventures-of-huckleberry-finn/comment-page-1#comment-578</link>
		<dc:creator>Samantha Mat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Nov 2010 22:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree with you about how all the detailed accents add &quot;magic&quot; to the story. I just finished this novel and I not only gained a sense of knowledge of how the culture was back then, but I also gained a sense of understanding. I felt as if I was &quot;there&quot;, and this was completely due to the speech he uses. Each stop on the river is a different tale, with different characters, different adventures, and different accents! I think it truly helps the reader understand how our modern day transportation has caused variation in language-as shown in Huck Finn-to completely cease.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree with you about how all the detailed accents add &#8220;magic&#8221; to the story. I just finished this novel and I not only gained a sense of knowledge of how the culture was back then, but I also gained a sense of understanding. I felt as if I was &#8220;there&#8221;, and this was completely due to the speech he uses. Each stop on the river is a different tale, with different characters, different adventures, and different accents! I think it truly helps the reader understand how our modern day transportation has caused variation in language-as shown in Huck Finn-to completely cease.</p>
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		<title>By: nat</title>
		<link>http://blaynesucks.com/2009/11/04/book-adventures-of-huckleberry-finn/comment-page-1#comment-362</link>
		<dc:creator>nat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 16:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I feel like there’s an element of hope missing. I didn’t leave Huck Finn feeling quite as down as I did after The Sound and the Fury. There’s hope in the way Huck himself changes in the book.&quot;
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Yes, but the very act of growing and changing makes it impossible for Huck -- much in the same way as it did for Clemens -- to abide by the strictures of Southern Culture.  By leaving Tom Sawyer behind (not just literally, but metaphorically as well since Tom now represents Huck&#039;s now-forever-gone childhood), Huck is not just living the adage that you can never go home again, he is leaving behind the culture and values that causes -- to paraphrase Lois McMaster Bujold -- the South to eat its young.  &quot;Hope&quot;, you say?  There was none to be had in the South by staying; it could only be acquired through the act of leaving.

This Wikipedia entry ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Mississippi_Flood_of_1927#Political.2C_sociological_and_cultural_effects ) sums it up well -- albeit, in a different context:  &quot;The aftermath of the flood was one factor in the Great Migration of African-Americans to northern cities. Previously, the move from the rural South to the Northern cities had virtually stopped. In June 1927 the flood waters began to recede, however the interracial relations were too strained to withstand. Hostilities had ruptured between the races; a black man was shot by a white police officer simply because he didn’t want to work a double shift. As a result of displacement lasting up to six months, tens of thousands of local African-Americans moved to the big cities of the North, particularly Chicago, many thousands more followed in the following decades.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I feel like there’s an element of hope missing. I didn’t leave Huck Finn feeling quite as down as I did after The Sound and the Fury. There’s hope in the way Huck himself changes in the book.&#8221;<br />
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Yes, but the very act of growing and changing makes it impossible for Huck &#8212; much in the same way as it did for Clemens &#8212; to abide by the strictures of Southern Culture.  By leaving Tom Sawyer behind (not just literally, but metaphorically as well since Tom now represents Huck&#8217;s now-forever-gone childhood), Huck is not just living the adage that you can never go home again, he is leaving behind the culture and values that causes &#8212; to paraphrase Lois McMaster Bujold &#8212; the South to eat its young.  &#8220;Hope&#8221;, you say?  There was none to be had in the South by staying; it could only be acquired through the act of leaving.</p>
<p>This Wikipedia entry ( <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Mississippi_Flood_of_1927#Political.2C_sociological_and_cultural_effects" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Mississippi_Flood_of_1927#Political.2C_sociological_and_cultural_effects</a> ) sums it up well &#8212; albeit, in a different context:  &#8220;The aftermath of the flood was one factor in the Great Migration of African-Americans to northern cities. Previously, the move from the rural South to the Northern cities had virtually stopped. In June 1927 the flood waters began to recede, however the interracial relations were too strained to withstand. Hostilities had ruptured between the races; a black man was shot by a white police officer simply because he didn’t want to work a double shift. As a result of displacement lasting up to six months, tens of thousands of local African-Americans moved to the big cities of the North, particularly Chicago, many thousands more followed in the following decades.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Massey</title>
		<link>http://blaynesucks.com/2009/11/04/book-adventures-of-huckleberry-finn/comment-page-1#comment-361</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Massey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 02:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re absolutely right about assigning literature to high school students!  So many people that I have talked to about this challenge either hate the books they read in high school or freely admit that they didn&#039;t get them.  It&#039;s rather uncommon that people hold up a book they read in high school as life-changing.  

In addition, several people that I&#039;ve talked to about the Great American Novel Challenge happily discuss one or two &#039;classics&#039; they read or re-read years after graduating from high school.  Their experiences are much, much better.

I love the idea of thinking of Huck Finn as a road trip.  The entire latter half of the book feels so episodic, and thinking of it as a road trip is a wonderful analogy.  

Although I mostly agree with your comments, I feel like there&#039;s an element of hope missing.  I didn&#039;t leave Huck Finn feeling quite as down as I did after The Sound and the Fury.  There&#039;s hope in the way Huck himself changes in the book.

Thanks for the comment!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re absolutely right about assigning literature to high school students!  So many people that I have talked to about this challenge either hate the books they read in high school or freely admit that they didn&#8217;t get them.  It&#8217;s rather uncommon that people hold up a book they read in high school as life-changing.  </p>
<p>In addition, several people that I&#8217;ve talked to about the Great American Novel Challenge happily discuss one or two &#8216;classics&#8217; they read or re-read years after graduating from high school.  Their experiences are much, much better.</p>
<p>I love the idea of thinking of Huck Finn as a road trip.  The entire latter half of the book feels so episodic, and thinking of it as a road trip is a wonderful analogy.  </p>
<p>Although I mostly agree with your comments, I feel like there&#8217;s an element of hope missing.  I didn&#8217;t leave Huck Finn feeling quite as down as I did after The Sound and the Fury.  There&#8217;s hope in the way Huck himself changes in the book.</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment!</p>
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		<title>By: nat</title>
		<link>http://blaynesucks.com/2009/11/04/book-adventures-of-huckleberry-finn/comment-page-1#comment-360</link>
		<dc:creator>nat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 05:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woe to those high school students that are required to read serious literature!  (I remember when I read -- albeit, at my own initiative --  Salinger&#039;s Catcher in the Rye;  to this day I still remember thinking when I finished it that I Just Didn&#039;t Get It.)   My American Lit. professor said that it amounts to cruel and unusual punishment, and I agree.  I believe that if high school students ARE to be exposed to such works, then they should be spoon fed the critical analysis.  That means they should be explicitly told what values were implicit to that generation and the author in question.  It&#039;s no wonder that the above posters didn&#039;t care for Huck Finn; they were probably told to read it and given no literary criticism to complement it.

Huck Finn is easily one of the most misunderstood Great American Novels because so many people think of it as a children&#039;s story.  This is a VERY understandable mistake since:  

1. It is a sequel to a bona fide children&#039;s story -- albeit at a novel&#039;s length; and 
2. It ACTUALLY BEGINS as a children&#039;s story.

It is generally considered by most literary critics that Clemens didn&#039;t know where to take the story; and, after removing  Huck and Jim (and it should be noted that Huck never actually refers to Jim as &quot;NIgger Jim&quot;) from the Mississippi, that he had set the story aside for a number of years.  During this time he had an occasion to travel throughout the South; and what he saw disturbed him.  He pulled Huck Finn out from storage and it is from this point onward that the novel demonstrates its greatness; for Clemens will no longer seek to entertain children, but -- rather -- expose the Southern Condition.  In order to do this, he will have his protagonists explore the region; it will be the first American road trip, and the road traveled by them will be that great wide highway known by its denizens simply as &quot;The River&quot;.  First they have to get back to the river, however, and in doing so Clemens lets the reader know that this is no longer a children&#039;s story by invoking The Bard (specifically, &quot;Romeo &amp; Juliet&quot;).

The chapters that follow are a veritable catalog of all of the deficiencies of Southern culture (and by the way, it definitively shows through the characterization of Jim just why Stowe&#039;s &quot;Uncle Tom&#039;s Cabin&quot; must be considered propaganda -- albeit, very good propaganda); and at the end Clemens has Huck following Horace Greeley&#039;s dictum:  &quot;Go west, young man.&quot;  Clemens might have added that there was no future to be had in the South; sentiments that would be repeated some 40 years later by a certain young writer in Mississippi by the name of William Falkner.  Through the various lives of his Snopes family Faulkner would unfailingly draw a comparison between the post-Civil War and the South of the first-half of the 20th Century; and his message was an obvious one:  Go to great industrial cities of the North, for there is no future to be had here in the South.

From Clemens to Faulkner the conclusion is obvious:  The more things change, the more they stay the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woe to those high school students that are required to read serious literature!  (I remember when I read &#8212; albeit, at my own initiative &#8212;  Salinger&#8217;s Catcher in the Rye;  to this day I still remember thinking when I finished it that I Just Didn&#8217;t Get It.)   My American Lit. professor said that it amounts to cruel and unusual punishment, and I agree.  I believe that if high school students ARE to be exposed to such works, then they should be spoon fed the critical analysis.  That means they should be explicitly told what values were implicit to that generation and the author in question.  It&#8217;s no wonder that the above posters didn&#8217;t care for Huck Finn; they were probably told to read it and given no literary criticism to complement it.</p>
<p>Huck Finn is easily one of the most misunderstood Great American Novels because so many people think of it as a children&#8217;s story.  This is a VERY understandable mistake since:  </p>
<p>1. It is a sequel to a bona fide children&#8217;s story &#8212; albeit at a novel&#8217;s length; and<br />
2. It ACTUALLY BEGINS as a children&#8217;s story.</p>
<p>It is generally considered by most literary critics that Clemens didn&#8217;t know where to take the story; and, after removing  Huck and Jim (and it should be noted that Huck never actually refers to Jim as &#8220;NIgger Jim&#8221;) from the Mississippi, that he had set the story aside for a number of years.  During this time he had an occasion to travel throughout the South; and what he saw disturbed him.  He pulled Huck Finn out from storage and it is from this point onward that the novel demonstrates its greatness; for Clemens will no longer seek to entertain children, but &#8212; rather &#8212; expose the Southern Condition.  In order to do this, he will have his protagonists explore the region; it will be the first American road trip, and the road traveled by them will be that great wide highway known by its denizens simply as &#8220;The River&#8221;.  First they have to get back to the river, however, and in doing so Clemens lets the reader know that this is no longer a children&#8217;s story by invoking The Bard (specifically, &#8220;Romeo &amp; Juliet&#8221;).</p>
<p>The chapters that follow are a veritable catalog of all of the deficiencies of Southern culture (and by the way, it definitively shows through the characterization of Jim just why Stowe&#8217;s &#8220;Uncle Tom&#8217;s Cabin&#8221; must be considered propaganda &#8212; albeit, very good propaganda); and at the end Clemens has Huck following Horace Greeley&#8217;s dictum:  &#8220;Go west, young man.&#8221;  Clemens might have added that there was no future to be had in the South; sentiments that would be repeated some 40 years later by a certain young writer in Mississippi by the name of William Falkner.  Through the various lives of his Snopes family Faulkner would unfailingly draw a comparison between the post-Civil War and the South of the first-half of the 20th Century; and his message was an obvious one:  Go to great industrial cities of the North, for there is no future to be had here in the South.</p>
<p>From Clemens to Faulkner the conclusion is obvious:  The more things change, the more they stay the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Massey</title>
		<link>http://blaynesucks.com/2009/11/04/book-adventures-of-huckleberry-finn/comment-page-1#comment-207</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Massey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Others have told me they didn&#039;t really like Huck Finn when they were required to read it either.  The book is definitely opinionated and direct as a result of the open first-person narrative voice Twain uses.  I can see how that would rub some folks the wrong way.  Do you remember why you didn&#039;t really like the book when you read it in high school?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Others have told me they didn&#8217;t really like Huck Finn when they were required to read it either.  The book is definitely opinionated and direct as a result of the open first-person narrative voice Twain uses.  I can see how that would rub some folks the wrong way.  Do you remember why you didn&#8217;t really like the book when you read it in high school?</p>
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		<title>By: Ellie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ellie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read this in high school, but I don&#039;t remember liking it very much. I&#039;m glad you liked it and I can see how it has been the most &#039;American&#039;&#039; of the books you&#039;ve read so far. I look forward to you posts every month - can&#039;t wait to hear about what you read next month!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read this in high school, but I don&#8217;t remember liking it very much. I&#8217;m glad you liked it and I can see how it has been the most &#8216;American&#8221; of the books you&#8217;ve read so far. I look forward to you posts every month &#8211; can&#8217;t wait to hear about what you read next month!</p>
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